May have placed this on the wrong board - Gun Review looks like the correct forum. Found info over there on both questions. Had to give up on the W92 in 32-20, Kid. Not being a top gun the counters were givin' me too many misses. Not seeing paint fly or hearing a loud enough ping/clang and not being a class winner, I was expected to miss and so it was given. Proof is in the numbers, when I went to W73 in 38 my rifle hits started coming in at 100%. Have heard the same woe from other pards. Aware of the benefit of the doubt rule but sometimes it just don't work out that way - it happens. Also, I never argue with the counters, that's just wrong. The 32-20 was a fun gun to shoot but it's now regulated to standby statue.