Weak side gun/holster ?

[Marshal Deadwood]

Im not sure if I understand my SASS book correct.
On the weak side,,'my left side since im right handed',,,,my weak side holster needs to be a 'lefty' so the butt doest point forward?
One can not wear a right side turned backwards on the left with the butt of the revolver sticking forward?
I need to be clear on this before I purchase anymore leather.
And, does everyone wear low cut , fast draw type holsters or is a historical cut Slim Jim acceptable?
Thanks folks,

Marshal Deadwood

[Driftwood Johnson]

Howdy

I think I just answered your first question in a different post.

Many people wear more traditional 'high riding' rigs, like a Slim Jim. Around here, Hollywood style Buscadero rigs (fast draw) rigs are kind of rare. I wear a Duke rig myself:



If you notice, the short barrelled pistol on my rig is on the right when I wear my rig. The long 7 1/2" barrelled pistol is on my left, worn butt forward. It is easier to draw a short barrelled pistol on the strong side than a long barrelled pistol, when wearing a high riding rig. With a long barrel your elbow may get tangled in your armpit. That's why I reach across for the 7 1/2" barrelled gun. I tried it the other way. Once.

[Marshal Deadwood]

Driftwood,,,you trying to kill me with envyin' that pair o' Colts !?? Whew! nice outfit.

I sometimes get all,,,confusin' trying to ask something folks,,,but,,i was told that if you have say,,,a left side holster butt forward, and draw it with your left hand, you 'rake' it across your body and are out of the match,,,,,
ok,,,

Do you mostly shoot matches were you shoot both revolvers with your strong hand,,,empting one,,then cross-drawing and shooting it empty with the strong hand also?

Im new to competition shooting and was wondering what 'events' I would be likely  to need a 'left handed' or 'left hipped' holstesr for.... (that being my weak side)

If all my shooting is done right handed,,two handed,,id rather have a straight drop on right hip,,and a slight cross draw angle to reach to my left and draw my second revolver with my right hand?

I guess i just made what im asking a WHOLE lot more confusin !!,,,sorry guys,,,

Marshal Deadwood   ps,,,,dem is still some awesome riggin's wif dem Colts in'm , driftwood...

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[Driftwood Johnson]

OK, let's try this again.

It sounds like you are getting some misinformation. Let's work backwards. The only category that allows you to have 2 loaded pistols in your hands at once is gunfighter. Generally speaking, in gunfighter, you alternate your shots on the targets between your pistols. Shoot one pistol, then the other, then the first one again, then the second one again, etc.

You really need to get to a match and watch how this stuff is done, and I suggest you do so for before you spend one red cent, so you don't spend money on what might be a misunderstanding of the rules.

Which gun you shoot will depend on how any particular scenario is set up. It might be pistol, pistol, rifle, shotgun. It might be pistol, rifle, pistol, shotgun. It might be just about any combination, depending on how the stage designer set up the scenario. Generally speaking, when you shoot a pistol, you will fire all five rounds and then holster the empty pistol. Then you do what ever is next. If your second pistol is next, you will usually empty it, then holster it and move on to the next gun. There are of course exceptions, but that's how it's usually done.

Traditional is the category where you hold your pistols with both hands. Yes, it is a misnomer, let's not go there. Duelist is where you hold your pistols with just one hand to fire them.

How you carry and draw your guns is not necessarily related to how you shoot them. I always carry my guns in my cross draw rig and shoot them duelist. Which gun I draw first will depend on the scenario and where I happen to be facing at the time. If I want to shoot my strong side pistol first, I draw it empty it, and holster it. When I shoot my 'crossdraw' pistol I swivel my hips to keep the muzzle down range, reach across my body with my right hand, pull the pistol, point it down range while resuming my down range postition, empty the pistol,then swivel again to reholster.

If I wanted to shoot Traditional I would do all of the above, but I would be holding the pistols with two hands when I shot them. The difference is, with a cross draw rig, you need to postion your body so you don't break the 170. But you don't have to change hands when you pull the weak side pistol. With straight draw holsters, you don't have to do the swivel business, your pistols will always be poined down range. But you do have to change hands when you pull the weak side gun. You pays your money, you takes your choice.

Cross draw rigs seem to be getting out of favor these days, at least around here most shooters these days seem to be shooting a pair of straight draw holsters. The exceptinon is Gun Fighter, where they pull their guns simultaneously with both hands. There is also a minor variation of Duelist called Double Duelist. A Double Duelist will shoot his guns with either hand, but he only shoots one gun at a time and cannot have 2 loaded guns in his hands at once. So he will pull his strongside gun with that hand, empty it and holster it. Then he will pull his weak side gun with that hand, empty it and holster it. Or vice versa.

The other categories, Frontier Cartridge, Classic Cowboy, Modern, etc, may or may not impose restrictions on the way guns are carried and are handled. You'll have to look up the specifics, it is all their in the handbook.

I hope I answered your question about butt forward on your other post. As I said, some ROs will not allow you to do the Cavalry twist, but their is no official SASS rule against it. As a newcomer to cowboy shooting, I suggest you try either a rig with a pair of straight draw holsters or a cross draw rig and don't start out with the Cavalry Twist. It takes a lot of practice to get it right.

Also, on a technicality, there is no such thing in CAS as being DQ'd for sweeping yourself. You cannot break the 170 and you cannot sweep anyone else. That pretty much covers the gamut. You cannot be called for sweeping yourself, anybody who calls you for that is making up his own rules.

Thanks for the comments about my Colts, they are 2nd Gens, the long one was made in 1973, the short one in 1968.