buffaloarms brass 45/60

Started by carrera1281, May 10, 2008, 04:50:29 PM

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carrera1281

i have 45/60 brass from buffaloarms there is a big problem with accuracy the group size is very large and i have understand why ? the rim is not cut square .so the brass  front  face is not square with the bore i have try the same reloaded cartridge but with jamison brass and the group size is one hole for 5 bullets  in 100 yard range  do you know  how to square straight the rim ? thank you sorry for my very bad language but i am french

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Quote from: carrera1281 on May 10, 2008, 04:50:29 PM
i have 45/60 brass from buffaloarms there is a big problem with accuracy the group size is very large and i have understand why ? the rim is not cut square .so the brass  front  face is not square with the bore i have try the same reloaded cartridge but with jamison brass and the group size is one hole for 5 bullets  in 100 yard range  do you know  how to square straight the rim ? thank you sorry for my very bad language but i am french

Howdy, carrera1281.  Welcome, Amigo.

I have read your post, and I am not sure exactly what you mean when you say the rim of the brass is not cut square.  Has the rim of the Buffalo Arms brass been thinned so that is has a tapper to it? :-\  Are you shooting an Uberti or a Chaparral replica?

I cut down my own brass to make 45-60 cases, so I have no experience with the Buffalo Arms stuff.  Maybe John Boy or another member can help more. :)

Bye the way, if you are getting 5 shots in one hole at 100 yards, I think I would stick with Jamison brass!  That's excellent performance! ;D
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Carrera:  Welcome to Winchester 1876.  And please don't worry about your English.  Your problem is 100% understood.
Buffalo Arms hydraulically extrudes their brass.  Sounds like they did not make the rim square.

Suggest that you send Buffalo Arms an email with your purchase invoice and the dimensions of the rims.  I am sure they will send you corrected brass.  Here is their email webpage - http://www.buffaloarms.com/feedback.htm

Let us know how you make out.
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Carrera : Soyez bienvenus à 1876 Winchester. Et ne vous inquiétez pas s'il vous plaît au sujet de votre anglais. Votre problème est 100 % compris.
Les Bras de Bufflesse hydraulically font sortir leur cuivre jaune. Semble qu'ils n'aient pas fait le carré de bord.

Suggérez que vous envoyez un courrier électronique aux Bras de Bufflesse avec votre facture d'achat et les dimensions des bords. Je suis sûr qu'ils vous enverront le cuivre jaune corrigé. Voici le webpage de leur courrier électronique -
http: // www.buffaloarms.com/feedback.htm

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carrera1281

hello my 1876 is hege uberti my reloading is sierra 300 grs 8900 powder n135 40grs jamison brass  one hole in 100 yards you can see on the photos the same brass  45/60 from buffalo with the rim dimensions not square this rim thickness reduced to the standard 45-60 dimensions brass from a 45/70 winchester  http://www.hebergementimages.com/images/1210686871_Photo-041.jpg
http://www.hebergementimages.com/images/1210686938_Photo-045.jpg

john boy

Carrera:  Here are the standard dimensions that each case should be:

.............................................45-60 ................................45-70
Case Length .......................... 1.89 ................................. 2.105
Rim Diameter ......................... 0.629 ............................... 0.608
Rim Thickness ........................ 0.062 ............................... 0.065
Head Diameter ....................... 0.508 ............................... 0.504

Contact Buffalo Arms for replacements
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carrera1281

Quote from: john boy on May 13, 2008, 12:45:34 PM
Carrera:  Here are the standard dimensions that each case should be:

.............................................45-60 ................................45-70
Case Length .......................... 1.89 ................................. 2.105
Rim Diameter ......................... 0.629 ............................... 0.608
Rim Thickness ........................ 0.062 ............................... 0.065
Head Diameter ....................... 0.508 ............................... 0.504

Contact Buffalo Arms for replacements
sorry but my country is france and shipping price for the return too expensive i have send a mail to buffalo  for control this in the future .I am waiting jamison next production or starline new production thank you

john boy

Carrera:  Send a mail to Chaparral in Italy ... http://www.chaparralarms.com/contactus.htm
I believe they sell 45-60 loaded ammo and cases. if you reload
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carrera1281

Quote from: john boy on May 13, 2008, 08:48:08 PM
Carrera:  Send a mail to Chaparral in Italy ... http://www.chaparralarms.com/contactus.htm
I believe they sell 45-60 loaded ammo and cases. if you reload
thank you i have 40 brass from jamison that work very fine.The price in france for 45/60 brass from chapparal is 5,41$ for one brass .So i prefer waiting a few month for jamison cases.

Dakota Dan from OZ



I have just ordered 100 45-60 cases off an Australian case manufacturer they will cost me Aust $220.00, he has just sent an order of 25,000 over to the US and I would imagine you should be able to buy through Buffalo Arms.

I am now waiting for a set of 45-60 dies from BA and then start to reload and get the rifle down to the range ;D

Dakota  8)

 
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